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SilverTron Notes And Support Questions / 320ppm batch to make ...first time
« Last post by Thelegend on July 30, 2018, 07:27:27 PM »
Hello I'm looking to try and eventually make 320ppm
So I don't have to take 4 cups of water of 20ppm a day

I was thinking to start with 100ml of water and I have a Silverton...ive got dextrose and used that and washing soda for the electrolyte...but from what I read and understand is I will need to book at the same time and have a stirrrert at the same time as I run the Silverton ....


Here is what I am thinking...

Get a hotplate with a stirrer (magnetic?)
...mason jar on the hotplate mix with distilled water and electrolyte.
Boil ...turn on silvertron .keep a boil as low temp as possible...once timer complete...add cinnimon extract (kosher so can't do gelatin) to stabilize.

Let sit to cool

that sound about right or if anyone has a pic of their setup with the silvertron
..I've got v1 ...would be awesome
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Colloidal Gold Production / Re: My experiences and a couple of questions
« Last post by SaltyCornflakes on July 21, 2018, 07:49:39 PM »
Thanks, I figured something like that.
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Colloidal Gold Production / Re: My experiences and a couple of questions
« Last post by kephra on July 21, 2018, 05:59:59 PM »
Bubbles on the negative electrode are hydrogen, and will be continually made. Bubbles on the positive electrode are oxygen, chlorine until it runs out, and some carbon dioxide.
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Colloidal Gold Production / My experiences and a couple of questions
« Last post by SaltyCornflakes on July 21, 2018, 05:47:15 PM »
Hi there,

First time poster, but I've been making CG successfully with the maltodextrin method, #3 I believe it is. I feel fairly confident in the procedure now; I have my own understanding for the temperatures and the amounts. However some things I haven't had the time to test or test repeatedly, as making a batch itself is pretty time-consuming. And waiting months to see how well the batches hold up is, well.. the batches don't last that long. ;)

Basically my cook consists of a tiny pinch of sodium carbonate, appropriate amounts of salt and maltodextrin. I heat it up to at least 162F and then apply the current, 24V 1A. Electrode distance does not seem to matter too much. Keeping temperature slightly above starting temp is enough to produce good colour without too much evaporation. When the time's up, I remove the electrodes and cook the CG to about 200F for ten minutes or so. This seems to deal with the chlorine.

- It seems that I can up the amount of salt & maltodextrin to approach 50 PPM successfully. I get a deep red, almost purple. Is the problem with 50 PPM that there will be more sediment, and sooner? Otherwise it's working surprisingly well.

- I have a table salt here that includes E535, sodium ferrocyanide. Sounds scary. How dangerous is this if used to produce CG? I realize I should simply not use it (and will not use it in the future), but I made a couple of batches with it already so I'm curious.

- I remember reading that using the electrolysis, salt & maltodextrin method, when the reagents are well-measured and they run out, I can 'overshoot' the cook and it won't produce additional gold ions. So to reach PPM more or less accurately, I can simply let it run a little longer. However I'm still seeing bubbles off the electrode no matter how long I run it. What's up with this?

Thank you for this fantastic resource. I've been making silver with my own generator for years (Germany has an active generator building community), but never CG.
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Colloidal Gold Production / Re: First time col gold maker.. lots of questions
« Last post by kephra on June 30, 2018, 11:53:28 AM »
Hey,

    Ive got a korad 31v constant current machine. Im using a hot plate with a 2000ml beaker. Ive got a pure gold coin and a 14g copper wire. 

    I set my machine to 31v and .5 amps. Used a pinch of sea salt, a bigger pinch of sodium citrate and 2 drops of light cornsyrup. And 1600ml of distilled water. With that setup it went from clear to loght blue to purple in about 40 min.
You need a lot more corn syrup or maltodextrin to reduce and stabilize the gold. 
Why make such a large batch when you haven't worked out the procedure?
You should really weigh your salt and maltodextrin if you use it.
See: https://www.cgcsforum.com/index.php?topic=757.msg4230#msg4230

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     Next time i tried i went with same setup and .1 amps. It went clear to yellow to light green.

     Ideas?
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Colloidal Gold Production / First time col gold maker.. lots of questions
« Last post by vikingnorthman on June 30, 2018, 11:08:05 AM »
Hey,

    Ive got a korad 31v constant current machine. Im using a hot plate with a 2000ml beaker. Ive got a pure gold coin and a 14g copper wire. 

    I set my machine to 31v and .5 amps. Used a pinch of sea salt, a bigger pinch of sodium citrate and 2 drops of light cornsyrup. And 1600ml of distilled water. With that setup it went from clear to loght blue to purple in about 40 min.

     Next time i tried i went with same setup and .1 amps. It went clear to yellow to light green.

     Ideas?

   
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Colloidal Gold Production / Re: A few questions about Colloidal Gold production
« Last post by Bobby on June 26, 2018, 06:15:40 PM »
Kephra,

 Good point!  Wife says post John 3:16! 

Bobby
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Colloidal Gold Production / Re: A few questions about Colloidal Gold production
« Last post by kephra on June 26, 2018, 06:05:58 PM »
Ok, glad to hear that.  You better post again so you're not the mark of the beast :)
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Colloidal Gold Production / Re: A few questions about Colloidal Gold production
« Last post by Bobby on June 26, 2018, 05:50:53 PM »
  Thanks for the quick reply sir.  I will know use it for the future batches of colloidal gold. Which btw has turned out perfect ruby red from the 1st batch using your simple method.  Woohoo!

Bobby
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