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Colloidal Gold Production / Re: A few questions about Colloidal Gold production
« Last post by Bobby on June 26, 2018, 05:32:42 PM »

  I figured this is the place to ask this question.  Is the gelatin solution supposed to remain clear while in the fridge?  I made a batch up with 20 ppm colloidal silver and when I went to use it it saw very cloudy/milky.  Did I screw up this incredibly simple procedure or is that what it’s supposed to look like?

Not a chance.

We have discussed this ad nauseam, ad infinitum. Colloidal copper is at least as poisonous as ionic copper. If you want to take copper as a supplement, there are plenty available. Ionic copper is used for mould and algae control in some hot tub systems, and it is very good. But one doesn't drink the water in a hot tub.

Has anyone ever tried making colloidal copper? I thought when I finally get a SilverTron Elite I might try it if possible. There is a video on YouTube but he was using a car battery charger and a piece of cardboard for a lid on the jar. Thought I could do better than that bootleg setup.

Thank you for any time you can spare.
SilverTron Notes And Support Questions / Re: Troubleshooting
« Last post by Art on June 01, 2018, 10:03:21 PM »
I usually start my run around 16 volts for a 250 ml 320 ppm and don't have any problems.

SilverTron Notes And Support Questions / Re: Troubleshooting
« Last post by kephra on June 01, 2018, 04:17:59 PM »
Ah, its just a flesh wound, its still usable.
SilverTron Notes And Support Questions / Re: Troubleshooting
« Last post by Cher Sherwood on June 01, 2018, 04:15:14 PM »
I'm so glad I'm clear on this now. For some reason I was aiming for about 16 volts with 320ppm.

This has also now brought up something I did when I very first started and it's a bit embarrassing to admit because it was such a dumb thing to do. In trying to figure out how to clean the electrodes with a blowtorch without burning myself, I lifted the electrode holder with the electrodes still in place and started cleaning the small silver rod...which of course got so hot it melted the perfect predrilled hole and now I can never be completely sure of spacing because it makes the electrode using that hole floppy. I know what you're thinking...ridiculous thing to do! It absolutely was and I have no excuse for not thinking about what would happen. So, now with understanding that spacing is so important and plays such an important role with voltage, I should probably drill 2 new holes in my lid so I have nice straight holes for spacing and the electrode doesn't move with the stirring, shouldn't I?
SilverTron Notes And Support Questions / Re: Troubleshooting
« Last post by kephra on June 01, 2018, 03:54:51 PM »
Minimum target voltage depends on electrode spacing.
Electrolyte depends on water volume.
Reducing agent depends on water volume and ppm (total amount of silver dispensed in water)
SilverTron Notes And Support Questions / Re: Troubleshooting
« Last post by Cher Sherwood on June 01, 2018, 03:51:47 PM »
Oh, I am now realizing I haven't been clear on volts either then. So for 20 ppm uncapped as well as 320 ppm gelatine capped, we are aiming for 10 volts?
SilverTron Notes And Support Questions / Re: Troubleshooting
« Last post by kephra on June 01, 2018, 10:57:44 AM »
As to hot:  I run at a what cooks call a simmer.  I set my hotplate so that I get bubbles on the bottom of my flask that don't break the surface of the liquid, without my stirrer running.  That's what I do when making high ppm colloidal silver.  When heating to reduce in the microwave, I just run the microwave at 6 to 7 minutes for a liter.  I don't know exactly what temperature that is, but its not boiling hot.

For me to know exactly what temperature is required for different operations, I would have to make a run at 90 degrees, then one at 91 degrees etc, and I did not do that, as its unnecessary. 

As to voltage,  the minimum is always 10 volts for an electrode spacing of 1.5 inches regardless of target ppm.  If you change the electrode spacing, then the minimum voltage also changes.  There is a formula for that.  Its 4.33 volts per inch of spacing plus 3.5 volts.  So if you used a spacing of 3 inches, the minimum would be 16.5 volts.  But stick with a spacing of 1.5 inches and 10 volts.

As to the eBook, everything that is in the eBook is in the Articles section.  The book is just a printout of some of the articles, so you don't need that.

I hope that answered your questions.  Please do not hesitate to ask when you are not sure or do not understand something.

SilverTron Notes And Support Questions / Re: Troubleshooting
« Last post by MomRosie on June 01, 2018, 09:28:49 AM »


I did the little test and yes leads seem fine and there is a current.

I will have time tomorrow and will make any and all adjustments to make all different strengths capped and uncapped. I will take photos.

I never bought the additional book offered . Had I bought that book would my questions been answered?

Please don't take offense, but what you think are easy and simple directions listed here in the forum, really are not. I do not have a science or tech background. And I've read through the site for hours.
There is so much unclear. Temperatures aren't listed. For example - in the guide with the Silver Tron it says to use hot dw.- how hot ?
And I followed the directions listed on page 6 of the instruction booklet to make 320 ppm. And used the gelatin, electrolyte, and reducing agents amounts listed. Because I have the bullion bar I set it to 15ma. But it does not state what voltage to try and keep the brew at.  I have used 24 as a guide because I figured if the ones using 3 -9 volt batteries are trying for 27 then 24 is probably fine.

I really love this little machine and want to get the most out of it.

Thank you for your time and help.

If anyone else has directions written out or tips I'd greatly appreciate them. You can always email me too. :)

I've sent a few of you private emails and have never heard back.

Thanks and have a great day!

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