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Colloidal Gold Production / Re: some questions on making CG
« Last post by kephra on September 17, 2018, 07:16:08 AM »
Yes.  A good way to judge is that you should have bubbles on the bottom of the flask which do not break the surface of the water.  I think cooks call this a 'simmer'.
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Colloidal Gold Production / Re: some questions on making CG
« Last post by drmjaf on September 17, 2018, 05:28:03 AM »
it is necessary to keep water nearv to boil all time of process ? what is maintenance temp approximately ?
thanks
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SilverTron Notes And Support Questions / Re: 320ppm batch to make ...first time
« Last post by Thelegend on September 17, 2018, 03:23:47 AM »
So finally got the karo syrup -
put in some distilled water gelatin- let sit for 5 mins ---

 heated - set for 15ma -  was having issues getting above 10 ( was hovering around 9 - i eventually got it though - raising the coppper above a bit and eventually the silver as well.. - after about a minute or so i got it and stable from 10-12

half way had the adjust  the copper down a bit

then random spots had to adjust again a few times to make sure it was between 10 and 20

pic or didnt happen is attached -  ill dilute and see wwhat i get - its to dark for me to tell if it is good or not.
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Colloidal Gold Production / Re: some questions on making CG
« Last post by kephra on September 16, 2018, 07:56:48 AM »
Yes, you can use gold for both electrodes.  It is unnecessary, but you can do it.

All the chemicals have to be in the water and dissolved before powering the electrodes.
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Colloidal Gold Production / some questions on making CG
« Last post by drmjaf on September 16, 2018, 05:10:52 AM »
please guide me :

1- can i use gold in both poles(anode and cathode)?

2- as i want to make my first batch of CG with this method :

(( 40ppm (approx) Colloidal Gold, Electrolysis I
250 ml hot distilled water
100 mg sodium chloride (table salt ok, NOT sea salt)
110 mg trisodium citrate monohydrate
Pure gold anode, copper cathode.
1 ml Cinnamon Extract
Electrolyze with 350 milliamp current for 25 to 30 minutes
Constant stirring and heat required...

so my question is that  i must first  solve [sodium chloride+trisodium citrate+Cinnamon Extract ] and then turn on power ?
thanks
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Colloidal Gold Production / Re: My experiences and a couple of questions
« Last post by kephra on August 31, 2018, 09:10:14 AM »
Thanks for the photos!

Water is very important, and de-ionized is not the same as distilled.

However, all of your samples look usable.  Remember that if you don't add anything toxic, and use sufficient reducing agent, the result will be non-toxic.  The tyndall shows you have some large particles, and those particles will be ineffective, but the ruby red color shows most of your gold particles are correct.  So, I would have no qualms about using them.

Striving for a lower tyndall effect is still a good thing though.

Let us know how the new water works out.

I used to have a home distiller, but the quality of the water it produced was no where near as good as the distilled water I get from my grocery store.

A 'Zero Water Filter' produced better quality water than my home distiller did, and produced very good colloids.
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Colloidal Gold Production / Re: My experiences and a couple of questions
« Last post by SaltyCornflakes on August 30, 2018, 06:44:18 PM »
Okay, so far it looks like whether I use Electrolysis III or my "50 ppm" formula makes little difference. Whether I use the 34V or 24V supply also makes little difference. On a positive note, this means my "50 ppm" values as well as my power supply are most likely fine (as they have been fine before) and I can look for the issue somewhere else. Probably the water. This brand of demineralized water has been working well until now, but maybe I got a bad batch. I went ahead and ordered a distiller.

Will append photos of the whole lot once they're done cooking.

Edit: Here are the shots. This is frustrating. Only one sample is lighter than the others, and with less visible grey refraction. Why aren't the other E.III samples good? (I did a few more, not shown) The only one with very little tyndall is the 24V one. I thought it could be the new salt, but I'm getting similar results with either now. I wonder if bad water would be consistent with what I'm getting.


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Colloidal Gold Production / Re: My experiences and a couple of questions
« Last post by kephra on August 29, 2018, 06:28:19 PM »
I think the lower voltage gives a lower ppm due to its lower efficiency.  Ergo higher stability.
The difference between making gold vs making silver lies in the fact that a gold atom has to pick up 3 chlorine ions to free it from the bulk metal by make a soluble gold chloride molecule.  With silver it only requires one OH ion to free it.
But once a gold ion has captured one chlorine ion, its electrostatic attraction is decreased, so it is less likely to catch the second chlorine, and even less likely to capture all 3 it needs.

Higher voltage and higher current seems to increase the likelihood of any gold atom of capturing all three because of the increased electric field strength and number of chlorine ions bombarding the anode.
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Colloidal Gold Production / Re: My experiences and a couple of questions
« Last post by SaltyCornflakes on August 29, 2018, 06:16:38 PM »
Thank you for the help, as always.

This is interesting. It may be possible that a lower voltage allows for slightly higher ppm to be cooked successfully, at the expense of runtime. I'll try both ways tomorrow.
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Colloidal Gold Production / Re: My experiences and a couple of questions
« Last post by kephra on August 29, 2018, 06:08:37 PM »
Your pictures show a high amount of very large particles.  Varying voltage won't do that. 
I really suggest cutting back on the salt.  Salt decreases the stability of the gold particles by decreasing their zeta potential.  Raising the electrode voltage increases the efficiency of the system somewhat, so the effect is to increase the amount of gold ions going into the water.  Couple that with the amount of salt you used is probably your problem.  When I tested the electrolysis, I used 36 volts. (My power supply was marked 30 volts but tested at 36.)

Thats the only thing I can think of at present. 
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