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SilverTron Notes And Support Questions / Silvertron elite and colloidal gold
« Last post by charles goodrich on November 07, 2019, 08:57:25 AM »Can I use silverton elite to make colloidal gold?
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SilverTron Notes And Support Questions / How does the SilverTron Elite work.
« Last post by wgpeters on February 18, 2019, 06:02:20 PM »The SilverTron Elite is unique in the world of colloidal silver generators.
All generators work by applying current to a silver electrode submerged in water.
Automatic shutoff generators work either by time, or water conductivity. Shutting off by an automatic timer works well provided the machine uses a constant current regulating circuit, and it has some method of insuring the current (and voltage) is correct.
The least accurate method is ending the process by using the water conductivity (or resistance) as the monitored value. This is done by turning off the current when it reaches a certain predetermined value. The problem is that the conductivity depends on other parameters. Electrode depth, electrode spacing, temperature, water purity, electrode wear, all change the conductivity. So results vary widely. This method cannot be used with added electrolytes, so it is the slowest type of generator.
If they are of the constant current type, the process must be calculated and timed exactly so you know when to stop the process. This only works if there is enough electrolyte in the water to allow the current regulator to operate correctly. Constant current generators work well if the timing is accurately calculated for ppm and water volume. The SilverTron Jr works on this principle.
So what is unique and different about the SilverTron Elite? The SilverTron Elite does not use either of these methods. Instead, it counts the total number of electrons which pass between the electrodes. Since each electron which passes releases one, and only one silver ion; the SilverTron Elite knows exactly how much silver has been released into the water, and therefore knows at each instant in time what the ppm of the solution is, providing you have selected the correct water amount. This is accomplished by an internal CPU (computer chip). The CPU constantly calculates the remaining time to display so the operator knows when to expect the process to finish.
The Elite has built in current limiter control so the maximum current can be set to match the size of the electrodes. It does not use the current setting to determine end of process. It uses the total count of electrons which have passed through the water. For instance, if you have your system set at 15 ma, and you raise one electrode above a certain point, the current will drop from 15 ma to a lower value, but the time remaining display will change accordingly. The ppm will still be accurate when the process is complete. So the accuracy of the SilverTron Elite does not depend on electrode size, electrode spacing, temperature of the water, constant current, or time.
The internal computer in the SilverTron does all of the calculations for different ppm and water volume for you, and with a wide range of water volumes, ppm, and current make it the most flexible machine on the market.
All generators work by applying current to a silver electrode submerged in water.
Automatic shutoff generators work either by time, or water conductivity. Shutting off by an automatic timer works well provided the machine uses a constant current regulating circuit, and it has some method of insuring the current (and voltage) is correct.
The least accurate method is ending the process by using the water conductivity (or resistance) as the monitored value. This is done by turning off the current when it reaches a certain predetermined value. The problem is that the conductivity depends on other parameters. Electrode depth, electrode spacing, temperature, water purity, electrode wear, all change the conductivity. So results vary widely. This method cannot be used with added electrolytes, so it is the slowest type of generator.
If they are of the constant current type, the process must be calculated and timed exactly so you know when to stop the process. This only works if there is enough electrolyte in the water to allow the current regulator to operate correctly. Constant current generators work well if the timing is accurately calculated for ppm and water volume. The SilverTron Jr works on this principle.
So what is unique and different about the SilverTron Elite? The SilverTron Elite does not use either of these methods. Instead, it counts the total number of electrons which pass between the electrodes. Since each electron which passes releases one, and only one silver ion; the SilverTron Elite knows exactly how much silver has been released into the water, and therefore knows at each instant in time what the ppm of the solution is, providing you have selected the correct water amount. This is accomplished by an internal CPU (computer chip). The CPU constantly calculates the remaining time to display so the operator knows when to expect the process to finish.
The Elite has built in current limiter control so the maximum current can be set to match the size of the electrodes. It does not use the current setting to determine end of process. It uses the total count of electrons which have passed through the water. For instance, if you have your system set at 15 ma, and you raise one electrode above a certain point, the current will drop from 15 ma to a lower value, but the time remaining display will change accordingly. The ppm will still be accurate when the process is complete. So the accuracy of the SilverTron Elite does not depend on electrode size, electrode spacing, temperature of the water, constant current, or time.
The internal computer in the SilverTron does all of the calculations for different ppm and water volume for you, and with a wide range of water volumes, ppm, and current make it the most flexible machine on the market.
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SilverTron Notes And Support Questions / Re: SilverTron Manuals (PDF files)
« Last post by wgpeters on January 21, 2019, 12:54:07 PM »I do not plan on making any more Jrs.
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Where is everyone?The main forum has moved from cgcsforum.com to cgcsforum.org
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SilverTron Notes And Support Questions / Re: SilverTron Manuals (PDF files)
« Last post by emusic on January 20, 2019, 10:53:03 PM »Where is everyone? Also will there be anymore silver tron Jr's?
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SilverTron Notes And Support Questions / Re: SilverTron Manuals (PDF files)
« Last post by wgpeters on October 22, 2018, 01:40:06 PM »Updated SilverTron Elite manual posted.
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Color Samples / Effect of extra reducing agent
« Last post by wgpeters on October 12, 2018, 05:58:52 PM »None!
Bottle B has 10 times as much reducing agent (Karo) as Bottle A.
Bottle B has 10 times as much reducing agent (Karo) as Bottle A.
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Color Samples / 320 to 40 ppm gelatin capped
« Last post by wgpeters on October 06, 2018, 03:35:51 PM »
Leftmost is 320 ppm, then 160, 80, 40, and 20 ppm.
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Colloidal Gold Production / Re: 40 ppm Colloidal Gold, chemical reduction -- Karo Corn Syrup / Washing Soda
« Last post by kephra on September 30, 2018, 12:18:29 PM »Colloidal gold is particles, so can be filtered out. As it becomes more concentrated though, its particle size will most likely increase.
Why would you want to do that? You can reclaim it by evaporating the water, and then burning out the sugar.
Why would you want to do that? You can reclaim it by evaporating the water, and then burning out the sugar.